Hari the Hadron

Thursday, September 08, 2005

HARD HITTING FACTS – ATLEAST I BELIEVE SO

I received these comparisons through an e-mail. Could not resist posting it.

  • Rains in new orleans due to hurricane Katrina - 18 inches.
    Rains in mumbai (July 27th) - 37.1 inches
  • Population of new Orleans - 484,674
    Population of Mumbai - 12,622,500
  • Deaths in New orleans within 48 hours of Katrina - 100
    Deaths in mumbai within 48hours of rain - 37
  • Number of people to be evacuated in New Orleans - entire city
    Number of people evacuated in Mumbai - 10,000
  • Cases of shooting and violence in New Orleans - Countless
    Cases of shooting and violence in Mumbai - NONE
  • Time taken for US army to reach New Orleans - 48hours
    Time taken for Indian army and navy to reach Mumbai - 12hours
  • Status 48hours later at New orleans - still waiting for relief, army and Electricity
    Status 48hours later at Mumbai - back on its feet and its business is as usual
  • USA...world's most developed nation
    India...JUST A DEVELOPING NATION

I hope I did not get the last fact wrong???
If not, should I not be proud of being an INDIAN.

Let me reiterate here, that the credit for this does not go to the Government or the Politicians busy mud slinging in an already stinking city or the haplessly exposed administration or the politically affiliated NGOs. The credit beyond doubt goes to the resilient, selfless, never say die Mumbaiites who believe not only in letter but in spirit too that after all we Indians are one large family beyond all caste, creed and religion and that WE are the system, administration and machinery who need to perform. We did it in Tsunami and we have done it again now and believe me we can do it every time we are faced by adversities if only we are all together and believe in ourselves to be so.

21 Comments:

  • Hi everybody. Please feel free to comment. even criticism would be a compliment.

    By Blogger hari, at 5:40 AM  

  • That is the power of all the meditation and Tapas that has happened and may still be happening in the land of Mumba Devi!

    By Blogger Swahilya Shambhavi, at 8:33 AM  

  • Hi Hari, I agree that we are more resilient, but do give some credit to the government machinery and also the NGO's. Also the voluteers who pour in out of nowhere, be it Latur(earthquake), Tsunami, or Rains. What New Orleans is facing is major but not quite as big as the Tsunami. And considering the population density of Mumbai and NO, it is surprising that Mumbai could jump back to life so fast. It seems that US has planned more in terms of stopping such a thing from happening.But once such a calamity befalls, they are quite lost.In India we are more prepared for the aftermath, I think.God Bless All!

    By Blogger Summer of 69, at 2:55 PM  

  • Hi Hari. Great post. Like I've been saying, I'm trying to post my thoughts on Katrina but unable to come up with the rightwords. But your simple, fact filled post says it all. Kudos to you! :)

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:03 AM  

  • New Orleans - much of the area below sea level
    Mumbai - from sea level upto 15 m above

    National pride - Enormous
    Perspective about a natural disaster - Lacking

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:35 PM  

  • I don’t accept that the situation in US can be compared with what happened at Mumbai. New Orleans is below Sea Level, so Flooding is more long lasting and severe. We Indians are good at falsely convincing ourselves to be the best. And a devastating hurricane shouldn't be compared with a heavy rain...hahaha...sorry friend...

    By Blogger saurav, at 5:50 PM  

  • This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:54 PM  

  • Hi Friends,
    Sorry about the nasty comment posted in here by somebody whose name described him or her best. I thought it best to ignore it as countering it would mean throwing stone on the shit.

    By Blogger hari, at 9:41 PM  

  • I still think we Indians are the most corrupt, selfish, self-centred and indifferent bunch of people on this planet. At the time of writing this post, it’s raining heavily in Mumbai and none of the senior ministers including the CM of Maharashtra are in Mumbai. They are busy in their home constituencies nurturing their vote banks. They are not answerable/accountable to the people of Mumbai. Like wise, when the Tsunami struck parts of Southern India on the 26th of December last year, how many of us cancelled the New Year celebrations just 5 days later. People had to bribe officials to get relief food/clothes, and also, trust me, the dead bodies of their relatives! Simply pathetic. No doubt that the American administration was very late in responding but atleast people won’t have to bribe officials to get their relatives dead bodies. Please post your opinions in the comments.

    24 Responses to “Proud to be an Indian”

    1. Indian Says:

    It’s true about indians as per the editor, man it’s disgusting to say this as i too am an Indian, but man the corruption in INDIA ….well, most of u know that. It ranks nearly 2nd in the world. I see stupid officials asking for bribe for every thing they do. They feel like it’s their daily first DUTY to as for bribe.
    There’s more to say but …..
    2. Sairam Says:


    The corruption might be at its worst in India but the compassion for fellow human beings is at its best.

    I am proud to be an Indian!!!

    Sai
    3. ali Says:

    The police and the politicians, the administration and the bureaucrats may be corrupt in India. but the main point is this = Indians care for each other in times of distress. there is absolutely no feeling of dark or fair, black or white, hindu or muslim, sikh or christian. when any natural calamity strikes us, we all help out in any way possible. Indian society may be corrupt, but Indians are the best. I am proud to be an Indian in every sense of the word. more number of people died in America when the hurricane struck just because the effected people were blacks. Less people died here because the effected people were Indian. Not black or white, hindu or muslim or any other religion or race.
    4. Anon Says:


    Well NO was not an important state to be honest though that sounds crude. If it was a state like New York or California the help would be there at twice the speed. So there is no comparision between New Orleans and Bombay.

    Not to mention New Orleans was bowl shaped , so the floods had more of an impact.
    5. KHAN Says:

    My friend don t be so proud Iam from Pakistan and when the Sonami came in
    the Indian ocean it did not hit Pakistan it could have happened any where,so dont be so proud every thing happenes from GOD, THE CREATER OF EVERY THING
    6. abcdefghi Says:

    eventhough india is third world country, they provided service quickly to their ppl, in usa dere is corruption as well but they are known as legal fees. compare the wages of indian officials and american and look at urself guys we don;t pay tax in india but in usa or canada we pay half of our money in taxes…….so think now who is better…………………..i proud to be an indian even i live in canada……………..
    7. roger Says:

    officials taking bribe for distributing help, many affected people spend the help money on drinks. Many unaffected people got the benefit with the help and definately sharing from local politicians. People in india, help each other in difficulties but the considering above factors, nothing is that we can be proud for.
    8. Jessy Says:

    No matter how corrupt my nation is, how bad it is, we grew up like that and I am proud to be born in India. This is my country and I belong here, and for those people who feel sorry to say they are indian….I feel sorry for you idiots.
    9. sanjaySays:

    I am pround to be Indian this doesnot mean i should not improve the curroupt surroundings. We can learn from everywhere possible. US also has to learn from us. It is not necessary that US is GOD. IT is the attitude of people in India who helped eachother and didnot loot the others at gunpoint. THIS IS INDIA. Even all the females who were strangled in flood watersin Mumbai were not teased but helped.
    10. Sandeep Says:


    I don’t accept that the situation in US can be compared with what happened at Mumbai. New Orleans is below Sea Level, so Flooding is more long lasting and severe. We Indians are good at falsely convincing ourselves to be the best. One of my friends above has gone to the extend to say that Caste and Creed does not make any difference. He must be blind and deaf or pretending to be. How many people in India die everyday on the name of Caste and Religion. Lets see the good things of other Nations and learn to appreciate. Lets accept our weaknesses and work to get rid of them.
    11. Ace Says:


    Its comparing tables with chairs. New Orleans was hit by a hurricane, not MONSOON !!!

    Stop being over-nationalistic
    12. ak Says:


    what i wanna say is we r dead …we r living life coz we fear to kill ourself.we r fooling ourself by talkin bout those things who has nothing to do with the truth.we wanna take over the system we wants to change it but we r devided coz indians r most selfish human on this earth.look inside urself n think how much honest u r to mankind, to the system, to friends to family and atlast to urself even.time to think about communism…..think bout it coz for us democracy means freedom to do “anything”.as for as i am concerned i am geting frustated day by day and thnx but no thnx to u i dont wanna read or listen all bullshit u people discuss coz that is far away from truth.ALL I WANNA SAY PLZ GET UNITED AND THINK, FIGHT FOR UR RIGHTS.
    13. jagat Says:


    the thing which matters is not the corruption but the satisfaction and faith which is full in indian hearts . no matters who bribed whom but lives are saved and the life came to normalcy is’nt it great.
    14. arla Says:


    If God created everything, then why did God create evil? Its not God who makes Tsunamis its the laws of physics. And by the way, unlike humans, Tsunamis are not religion biased!!
    Stop searchin for God, the element is within you.
    15. Jay Says:


    This is not to say that I condone corruption.
    Corruption is there even in the richest countries in the World. In Western countries corruption does not affect common man. Bush has made billions of dollars by dealing with Saudi Arabia. Richest people in the World are in Gulf countries, which are Muslim countries with lot of religious observations and restrictions. All these filthy rich people are corrupt both financially and morally.
    16. Tantrix Says:


    Overall, comparing these two disasters is like comparing apples and oranges. It’s interesting, but serves no purpose and proves nothing.

    Maybe the floods in Mumbai weren’t disasterous enough — but that doesn’t make it better handled than the floods in New Orleans.

    Also, US is the big bully in the world today. Considering that Mr. Bush took over the command of two countries during his first reign as the President, I agree that the response time was slow and the help inadequate for such a powerful and decisive leader.

    And let me just say that US is a country where small things are over-hyped and people need directions for everything. They need to know if the coffee they’re paying $3 for is hot (otherwise they’ll sue).. or they need to know that cigarettes that they pay $5 for are eventually gonna kill them (otherwise they’ll sue)..

    It’s a whole country of kids who consider themselves victims.. victims of hot coffee, big macs, hurricanes, terrorists, iraq, iran, n. korea, and even themselves.

    Even this New Orleans mess is no different… it’s blown way out of proportion.. They need to do only one thing.. take it in the stride and grow up..
    17. The most pathetic living creature Says:


    All Crap and this is mega crap.. Doesn’t matter.. Every one is corrupt in the world.. some are very greedy and some while collared. The main thing inspite of the “DEVELOPED” tag, we see here the undevelopmed mentality of the citizens (looting, rape and very bad administration)
    18. SUSHANT. Says:

    Hello All,

    Yes, I do agree with the editor about the corruption thats rampant in India. Thats why India after all these years is still a third world country.

    To the fact that India has provided top brains to all major projects across the World, that has made the other countries richer & advance. Yet, India is still a third world nation.

    If we remove all these corrupt politicians then I am sure that India will be the most advanced nation in the World.

    But, as the proverb goes, ” Who will bell the cat?”.

    President Bush has made USA a living hell for people, he sure has made his millions if not billions in these past four yrs of his presidency. The army took 4 days to respond to handle the post hurricane situations. But, Bush has thousands of troops in Iraq.. why?

    There are many questions that will be unanswered.

    Thanks,
    Sushant.
    19. gautam Says:


    THINK LIKE A MAN OF ACTION…..AND ACT LIKE A MAN OF THOUGHT.

    IF ALL OF US JUST DO OUR DUTIES HONESTLY EVERYTHING WILL FALL INTO PLACE ON ITS OWN.

    I HAVE UNDERSTOOD THIS FACT AND I AM FOLLOWING THE RIGHT PATH, HOPE THIS MESSAGE WILL BRING A POSITIVE CHANGE IN ATLEAST ONE OF THE READERS.
    20. simran Says:
    st want to say problems are not with nations, it is with people all over the world.

    it is human beings that are corupt,crueletc,etc.

    agar bharat me gandiji ko goli mara jata hai to videsh me bhi christ ko suli par chadhaya jata hai

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:52 PM  

  • HUH !!! U deleted my comment...you
    ashole.....

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:54 PM  

  • I still think we Indians are the most corrupt, selfish, self-centred and indifferent bunch of people on this planet. At the time of writing this post, it’s raining heavily in Mumbai and none of the senior ministers including the CM of Maharashtra are in Mumbai. They are busy in their home constituencies nurturing their vote banks. They are not answerable/accountable to the people of Mumbai. Like wise, when the Tsunami struck parts of Southern India on the 26th of December last year, how many of us cancelled the New Year celebrations just 5 days later. People had to bribe officials to get relief food/clothes, and also, trust me, the dead bodies of their relatives! Simply pathetic. No doubt that the American administration was very late in responding but atleast people won’t have to bribe officials to get their relatives dead bodies. Please post your opinions in the comments.

    24 Responses to “Proud to be an Indian”

    1. Indian Says:
    September 10th, 2005 at 9:37 pm

    It’s true about indians as per the editor, man it’s disgusting to say this as i too am an Indian, but man the corruption in INDIA ….well, most of u know that. It ranks nearly 2nd in the world. I see stupid officials asking for bribe for every thing they do. They feel like it’s their daily first DUTY to as for bribe.
    There’s more to say but …..
    2. Sairam Says:
    September 10th, 2005 at 10:15 pm

    The corruption might be at its worst in India but the compassion for fellow human beings is at its best.

    I am proud to be an Indian!!!

    Sai(sai.biomed@gmail.com)
    3. ali Says:
    September 10th, 2005 at 10:15 pm

    The police and the politicians, the administration and the bureaucrats may be corrupt in India. but the main point is this = Indians care for each other in times of distress. there is absolutely no feeling of dark or fair, black or white, hindu or muslim, sikh or christian. when any natural calamity strikes us, we all help out in any way possible. Indian society may be corrupt, but Indians are the best. I am proud to be an Indian in every sense of the word. more number of people died in America when the hurricane struck just because the effected people were blacks. Less people died here because the effected people were Indian. Not black or white, hindu or muslim or any other religion or race.
    4. Anon Says:
    September 10th, 2005 at 10:43 pm

    Well NO was not an important state to be honest though that sounds crude. If it was a state like New York or California the help would be there at twice the speed. So there is no comparision between New Orleans and Bombay.

    Not to mention New Orleans was bowl shaped , so the floods had more of an impact.
    5. KHAN Says:
    September 11th, 2005 at 1:40 am

    My friend don t be so proud Iam from Pakistan and when the Sonami came in
    the Indian ocean it did not hit Pakistan it could have happened any where,so dont be so proud every thing happenes from GOD, THE CREATER OF EVERY THING
    6. abcdefghi Says:
    September 11th, 2005 at 4:12 am

    eventhough india is third world country, they provided service quickly to their ppl, in usa dere is corruption as well but they are known as legal fees. compare the wages of indian officials and american and look at urself guys we don;t pay tax in india but in usa or canada we pay half of our money in taxes…….so think now who is better…………………..i proud to be an indian even i live in canada……………..
    7. roger Says:
    September 11th, 2005 at 6:34 am

    officials taking bribe for distributing help, many affected people spend the help money on drinks. Many unaffected people got the benefit with the help and definately sharing from local politicians. People in india, help each other in difficulties but the considering above factors, nothing is that we can be proud for.
    8. Jessy Says:
    September 11th, 2005 at 6:44 am

    No matter how corrupt my nation is, how bad it is, we grew up like that and I am proud to be born in India. This is my country and I belong here, and for those people who feel sorry to say they are indian….I feel sorry for you idiots.
    9. sanjay1059 Says:
    September 11th, 2005 at 6:44 am

    I am pround to be Indian this doesnot mean i should not improve the curroupt surroundings. We can learn from everywhere possible. US also has to learn from us. It is not necessary that US is GOD. IT is the attitude of people in India who helped eachother and didnot loot the others at gunpoint. THIS IS INDIA. Even all the females who were strangled in flood watersin Mumbai were not teased but helped.
    10. Sandeep Says:
    September 11th, 2005 at 6:51 am

    I don’t accept that the situation in US can be compared with what happened at Mumbai. New Orleans is below Sea Level, so Flooding is more long lasting and severe. We Indians are good at falsely convincing ourselves to be the best. One of my friends above has gone to the extend to say that Caste and Creed does not make any difference. He must be blind and deaf or pretending to be. How many people in India die everyday on the name of Caste and Religion. Lets see the good things of other Nations and learn to appreciate. Lets accept our weaknesses and work to get rid of them.
    11. Ace Says:
    September 11th, 2005 at 7:24 am

    Its comparing tables with chairs. New Orleans was hit by a hurricane, not MONSOON !!!

    Stop being over-nationalistic
    12. ak Says:
    September 11th, 2005 at 7:55 am

    what i wanna say is we r dead …we r living life coz we fear to kill ourself.we r fooling ourself by talkin bout those things who has nothing to do with the truth.we wanna take over the system we wants to change it but we r devided coz indians r most selfish human on this earth.look inside urself n think how much honest u r to mankind, to the system, to friends to family and atlast to urself even.time to think about communism…..think bout it coz for us democracy means freedom to do “anything”.as for as i am concerned i am geting frustated day by day and thnx but no thnx to u i dont wanna read or listen all bullshit u people discuss coz that is far away from truth.ALL I WANNA SAY PLZ GET UNITED AND THINK, FIGHT FOR UR RIGHTS.
    13. jagat Says:
    September 11th, 2005 at 9:22 am

    the thing which matters is not the corruption but the satisfaction and faith which is full in indian hearts . no matters who bribed whom but lives are saved and the life came to normalcy is’nt it great.
    14. arla Says:
    September 11th, 2005 at 10:13 am

    If God created everything, then why did God create evil? Its not God who makes Tsunamis its the laws of physics. And by the way, unlike humans, Tsunamis are not religion biased!!
    Stop searchin for God, the element is within you.
    15. Jay Says:
    September 11th, 2005 at 10:36 am

    This is not to say that I condone corruption.
    Corruption is there even in the richest countries in the World. In Western countries corruption does not affect common man. Bush has made billions of dollars by dealing with Saudi Arabia. Richest people in the World are in Gulf countries, which are Muslim countries with lot of religious observations and restrictions. All these filthy rich people are corrupt both financially and morally.
    16. Tantrix Says:
    September 11th, 2005 at 11:06 am

    Overall, comparing these two disasters is like comparing apples and oranges. It’s interesting, but serves no purpose and proves nothing.

    Maybe the floods in Mumbai weren’t disasterous enough — but that doesn’t make it better handled than the floods in New Orleans.

    Also, US is the big bully in the world today. Considering that Mr. Bush took over the command of two countries during his first reign as the President, I agree that the response time was slow and the help inadequate for such a powerful and decisive leader.

    And let me just say that US is a country where small things are over-hyped and people need directions for everything. They need to know if the coffee they’re paying $3 for is hot (otherwise they’ll sue).. or they need to know that cigarettes that they pay $5 for are eventually gonna kill them (otherwise they’ll sue)..

    It’s a whole country of kids who consider themselves victims.. victims of hot coffee, big macs, hurricanes, terrorists, iraq, iran, n. korea, and even themselves.

    Even this New Orleans mess is no different… it’s blown way out of proportion.. They need to do only one thing.. take it in the stride and grow up..
    17. The most pathetic living creature Says:
    September 11th, 2005 at 3:08 pm

    All Crap and this is mega crap.. Doesn’t matter.. Every one is corrupt in the world.. some are very greedy and some while collared. The main thing inspite of the “DEVELOPED” tag, we see here the undevelopmed mentality of the citizens (looting, rape and very bad administration)
    18. SUSHANT. Says:
    September 11th, 2005 at 3:21 pm

    Hello All,

    Yes, I do agree with the editor about the corruption thats rampant in India. Thats why India after all these years is still a third world country.

    To the fact that India has provided top brains to all major projects across the World, that has made the other countries richer & advance. Yet, India is still a third world nation.

    If we remove all these corrupt politicians then I am sure that India will be the most advanced nation in the World.

    But, as the proverb goes, ” Who will bell the cat?”.

    President Bush has made USA a living hell for people, he sure has made his millions if not billions in these past four yrs of his presidency. The army took 4 days to respond to handle the post hurricane situations. But, Bush has thousands of troops in Iraq.. why?

    There are many questions that will be unanswered.

    Thanks,
    Sushant.
    19. gautam Says:
    September 11th, 2005 at 6:52 pm

    THINK LIKE A MAN OF ACTION…..AND ACT LIKE A MAN OF THOUGHT.

    IF ALL OF US JUST DO OUR DUTIES HONESTLY EVERYTHING WILL FALL INTO PLACE ON ITS OWN.

    I HAVE UNDERSTOOD THIS FACT AND I AM FOLLOWING THE RIGHT PATH, HOPE THIS MESSAGE WILL BRING A POSITIVE CHANGE IN ATLEAST ONE OF THE READERS.
    20. simran Says:
    September 11th, 2005 at 7:38 pm

    just want to say problems are not with nations, it is with people all over the world.

    it is human beings that are corupt,crueletc,etc.

    agar bharat me gandiji ko goli mara jata hai to videsh me bhi christ ko suli par chadhaya jata hai
    21. Bad Man Says:
    September 11th, 2005 at 8:49 pm

    INDIA IS GREAT - MERA BHARAT MAHAN - EAST OR WEST INDIA IS THE BEST - INDIA IS TILL ETERNITY - SARE JAHAN SE AACHA HINDUSTAN HAMARA - INDIA IS FOREVER - WHOLE WORLD RESIDES IN INDIA - KASHMIR SE KANYAKUMARI TAK BHARAT EK HAI AUR REHEGA - AMEEN
    22. ROHIT Says:
    September 11th, 2005 at 8:53 pm

    guys even though we go about cryin on the fact INDIA is not as advanced or the politicians are corrupt…or even sum idiots went about sayin here..they are not proud to be indians….tel me something how many of you all have helped the nation to be proud of you……all u guys simply study n help other nations..if you are not proud to be an indian….give back al the love,warmth,care,joy to ur motherland n leav…its because of you people that others make fun of our country n their citizens….if your ashamed to be an INDIAN.wel u should be ashamed of your culture,your past……..moreover your parents who are also INDIANS….HOW ABOUT CURSING THEM TO MAK U BORN INDIAN..?
    23. arya_712 Says:
    September 12th, 2005 at 11:13 am

    well can anyone say how many of us really feel patriotism when we utter the word patriot?How many of us Indians understand what patriotism is?Patriotism is not only standing in support of your nation when it is compared againt any other country,but treating and serving the country itself.Let no one say he is a patriot untill he has served his country and its people selflessly.
    For any correspondence mail to me at arya_712@yahoo.ie
    24. mpln4u Says:
    September 13th, 2005 at 4:41 am

    i truly agree with what editor has said. here the money collected by red cross and charities, will 100% surely will goto the affected people not in the pockets of the middle people.
    I agree that india has more more more potential than any other country in the world, if we can eliminate the bribes and corruption, India can soon become more than US or England.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:54 PM  

  • I still think we Indians are the most corrupt, selfish, self-centred and indifferent bunch of people on this planet. At the time of writing this post, it’s raining heavily in Mumbai and none of the senior ministers including the CM of Maharashtra are in Mumbai. They are busy in their home constituencies nurturing their vote banks. They are not answerable/accountable to the people of Mumbai. Like wise, when the Tsunami struck parts of Southern India on the 26th of December last year, how many of us cancelled the New Year celebrations just 5 days later. People had to bribe officials to get relief food/clothes, and also, trust me, the dead bodies of their relatives! Simply pathetic. No doubt that the American administration was very late in responding but atleast people won’t have to bribe officials to get their relatives dead bodies. Please post your opinions in the comments.

    24 Responses to “Proud to be an Indian”

    1. Indian Says:
    September 10th, 2005 at 9:37 pm

    It’s true about indians as per the editor, man it’s disgusting to say this as i too am an Indian, but man the corruption in INDIA ….well, most of u know that. It ranks nearly 2nd in the world. I see stupid officials asking for bribe for every thing they do. They feel like it’s their daily first DUTY to as for bribe.
    There’s more to say but …..
    2. Sairam Says:
    September 10th, 2005 at 10:15 pm

    The corruption might be at its worst in India but the compassion for fellow human beings is at its best.

    I am proud to be an Indian!!!

    Sai(sai.biomed@gmail.com)
    3. ali Says:
    September 10th, 2005 at 10:15 pm

    The police and the politicians, the administration and the bureaucrats may be corrupt in India. but the main point is this = Indians care for each other in times of distress. there is absolutely no feeling of dark or fair, black or white, hindu or muslim, sikh or christian. when any natural calamity strikes us, we all help out in any way possible. Indian society may be corrupt, but Indians are the best. I am proud to be an Indian in every sense of the word. more number of people died in America when the hurricane struck just because the effected people were blacks. Less people died here because the effected people were Indian. Not black or white, hindu or muslim or any other religion or race.
    4. Anon Says:
    September 10th, 2005 at 10:43 pm

    Well NO was not an important state to be honest though that sounds crude. If it was a state like New York or California the help would be there at twice the speed. So there is no comparision between New Orleans and Bombay.

    Not to mention New Orleans was bowl shaped , so the floods had more of an impact.
    5. KHAN Says:
    September 11th, 2005 at 1:40 am

    My friend don t be so proud Iam from Pakistan and when the Sonami came in
    the Indian ocean it did not hit Pakistan it could have happened any where,so dont be so proud every thing happenes from GOD, THE CREATER OF EVERY THING
    6. abcdefghi Says:
    September 11th, 2005 at 4:12 am

    eventhough india is third world country, they provided service quickly to their ppl, in usa dere is corruption as well but they are known as legal fees. compare the wages of indian officials and american and look at urself guys we don;t pay tax in india but in usa or canada we pay half of our money in taxes…….so think now who is better…………………..i proud to be an indian even i live in canada……………..
    7. roger Says:
    September 11th, 2005 at 6:34 am

    officials taking bribe for distributing help, many affected people spend the help money on drinks. Many unaffected people got the benefit with the help and definately sharing from local politicians. People in india, help each other in difficulties but the considering above factors, nothing is that we can be proud for.
    8. Jessy Says:
    September 11th, 2005 at 6:44 am

    No matter how corrupt my nation is, how bad it is, we grew up like that and I am proud to be born in India. This is my country and I belong here, and for those people who feel sorry to say they are indian….I feel sorry for you idiots.
    9. sanjay1059 Says:
    September 11th, 2005 at 6:44 am

    I am pround to be Indian this doesnot mean i should not improve the curroupt surroundings. We can learn from everywhere possible. US also has to learn from us. It is not necessary that US is GOD. IT is the attitude of people in India who helped eachother and didnot loot the others at gunpoint. THIS IS INDIA. Even all the females who were strangled in flood watersin Mumbai were not teased but helped.
    10. Sandeep Says:
    September 11th, 2005 at 6:51 am

    I don’t accept that the situation in US can be compared with what happened at Mumbai. New Orleans is below Sea Level, so Flooding is more long lasting and severe. We Indians are good at falsely convincing ourselves to be the best. One of my friends above has gone to the extend to say that Caste and Creed does not make any difference. He must be blind and deaf or pretending to be. How many people in India die everyday on the name of Caste and Religion. Lets see the good things of other Nations and learn to appreciate. Lets accept our weaknesses and work to get rid of them.
    11. Ace Says:
    September 11th, 2005 at 7:24 am

    Its comparing tables with chairs. New Orleans was hit by a hurricane, not MONSOON !!!

    Stop being over-nationalistic
    12. ak Says:
    September 11th, 2005 at 7:55 am

    what i wanna say is we r dead …we r living life coz we fear to kill ourself.we r fooling ourself by talkin bout those things who has nothing to do with the truth.we wanna take over the system we wants to change it but we r devided coz indians r most selfish human on this earth.look inside urself n think how much honest u r to mankind, to the system, to friends to family and atlast to urself even.time to think about communism…..think bout it coz for us democracy means freedom to do “anything”.as for as i am concerned i am geting frustated day by day and thnx but no thnx to u i dont wanna read or listen all bullshit u people discuss coz that is far away from truth.ALL I WANNA SAY PLZ GET UNITED AND THINK, FIGHT FOR UR RIGHTS.
    13. jagat Says:
    September 11th, 2005 at 9:22 am

    the thing which matters is not the corruption but the satisfaction and faith which is full in indian hearts . no matters who bribed whom but lives are saved and the life came to normalcy is’nt it great.
    14. arla Says:
    September 11th, 2005 at 10:13 am

    If God created everything, then why did God create evil? Its not God who makes Tsunamis its the laws of physics. And by the way, unlike humans, Tsunamis are not religion biased!!
    Stop searchin for God, the element is within you.
    15. Jay Says:
    September 11th, 2005 at 10:36 am

    This is not to say that I condone corruption.
    Corruption is there even in the richest countries in the World. In Western countries corruption does not affect common man. Bush has made billions of dollars by dealing with Saudi Arabia. Richest people in the World are in Gulf countries, which are Muslim countries with lot of religious observations and restrictions. All these filthy rich people are corrupt both financially and morally.
    16. Tantrix Says:
    September 11th, 2005 at 11:06 am

    Overall, comparing these two disasters is like comparing apples and oranges. It’s interesting, but serves no purpose and proves nothing.

    Maybe the floods in Mumbai weren’t disasterous enough — but that doesn’t make it better handled than the floods in New Orleans.

    Also, US is the big bully in the world today. Considering that Mr. Bush took over the command of two countries during his first reign as the President, I agree that the response time was slow and the help inadequate for such a powerful and decisive leader.

    And let me just say that US is a country where small things are over-hyped and people need directions for everything. They need to know if the coffee they’re paying $3 for is hot (otherwise they’ll sue).. or they need to know that cigarettes that they pay $5 for are eventually gonna kill them (otherwise they’ll sue)..

    It’s a whole country of kids who consider themselves victims.. victims of hot coffee, big macs, hurricanes, terrorists, iraq, iran, n. korea, and even themselves.

    Even this New Orleans mess is no different… it’s blown way out of proportion.. They need to do only one thing.. take it in the stride and grow up..
    17. The most pathetic living creature Says:
    September 11th, 2005 at 3:08 pm

    All Crap and this is mega crap.. Doesn’t matter.. Every one is corrupt in the world.. some are very greedy and some while collared. The main thing inspite of the “DEVELOPED” tag, we see here the undevelopmed mentality of the citizens (looting, rape and very bad administration)
    18. SUSHANT. Says:
    September 11th, 2005 at 3:21 pm

    Hello All,

    Yes, I do agree with the editor about the corruption thats rampant in India. Thats why India after all these years is still a third world country.

    To the fact that India has provided top brains to all major projects across the World, that has made the other countries richer & advance. Yet, India is still a third world nation.

    If we remove all these corrupt politicians then I am sure that India will be the most advanced nation in the World.

    But, as the proverb goes, ” Who will bell the cat?”.

    President Bush has made USA a living hell for people, he sure has made his millions if not billions in these past four yrs of his presidency. The army took 4 days to respond to handle the post hurricane situations. But, Bush has thousands of troops in Iraq.. why?

    There are many questions that will be unanswered.

    Thanks,
    Sushant.
    19. gautam Says:
    September 11th, 2005 at 6:52 pm

    THINK LIKE A MAN OF ACTION…..AND ACT LIKE A MAN OF THOUGHT.

    IF ALL OF US JUST DO OUR DUTIES HONESTLY EVERYTHING WILL FALL INTO PLACE ON ITS OWN.

    I HAVE UNDERSTOOD THIS FACT AND I AM FOLLOWING THE RIGHT PATH, HOPE THIS MESSAGE WILL BRING A POSITIVE CHANGE IN ATLEAST ONE OF THE READERS.
    20. simran Says:
    September 11th, 2005 at 7:38 pm

    just want to say problems are not with nations, it is with people all over the world.

    it is human beings that are corupt,crueletc,etc.

    agar bharat me gandiji ko goli mara jata hai to videsh me bhi christ ko suli par chadhaya jata hai
    21. Bad Man Says:
    September 11th, 2005 at 8:49 pm

    INDIA IS GREAT - MERA BHARAT MAHAN - EAST OR WEST INDIA IS THE BEST - INDIA IS TILL ETERNITY - SARE JAHAN SE AACHA HINDUSTAN HAMARA - INDIA IS FOREVER - WHOLE WORLD RESIDES IN INDIA - KASHMIR SE KANYAKUMARI TAK BHARAT EK HAI AUR REHEGA - AMEEN
    22. ROHIT Says:
    September 11th, 2005 at 8:53 pm

    guys even though we go about cryin on the fact INDIA is not as advanced or the politicians are corrupt…or even sum idiots went about sayin here..they are not proud to be indians….tel me something how many of you all have helped the nation to be proud of you……all u guys simply study n help other nations..if you are not proud to be an indian….give back al the love,warmth,care,joy to ur motherland n leav…its because of you people that others make fun of our country n their citizens….if your ashamed to be an INDIAN.wel u should be ashamed of your culture,your past……..moreover your parents who are also INDIANS….HOW ABOUT CURSING THEM TO MAK U BORN INDIAN..?
    23. arya_712 Says:
    September 12th, 2005 at 11:13 am

    well can anyone say how many of us really feel patriotism when we utter the word patriot?How many of us Indians understand what patriotism is?Patriotism is not only standing in support of your nation when it is compared againt any other country,but treating and serving the country itself.Let no one say he is a patriot untill he has served his country and its people selflessly.
    For any correspondence mail to me at arya_712@yahoo.ie
    24. mpln4u Says:
    September 13th, 2005 at 4:41 am

    i truly agree with what editor has said. here the money collected by red cross and charities, will 100% surely will goto the affected people not in the pockets of the middle people.
    I agree that india has more more more potential than any other country in the world, if we can eliminate the bribes and corruption, India can soon become more than US or England.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:54 PM  

  • I still think we Indians are the most corrupt, selfish, self-centred and indifferent bunch of people on this planet. At the time of writing this post, it’s raining heavily in Mumbai and none of the senior ministers including the CM of Maharashtra are in Mumbai. They are busy in their home constituencies nurturing their vote banks. They are not answerable/accountable to the people of Mumbai. Like wise, when the Tsunami struck parts of Southern India on the 26th of December last year, how many of us cancelled the New Year celebrations just 5 days later. People had to bribe officials to get relief food/clothes, and also, trust me, the dead bodies of their relatives! Simply pathetic. No doubt that the American administration was very late in responding but atleast people won’t have to bribe officials to get their relatives dead bodies. Please post your opinions in the comments.

    24 Responses to “Proud to be an Indian”

    1. Indian Says:
    September 10th, 2005 at 9:37 pm

    It’s true about indians as per the editor, man it’s disgusting to say this as i too am an Indian, but man the corruption in INDIA ….well, most of u know that. It ranks nearly 2nd in the world. I see stupid officials asking for bribe for every thing they do. They feel like it’s their daily first DUTY to as for bribe.
    There’s more to say but …..
    2. Sairam Says:
    September 10th, 2005 at 10:15 pm

    The corruption might be at its worst in India but the compassion for fellow human beings is at its best.

    I am proud to be an Indian!!!

    Sai(sai.biomed@gmail.com)
    3. ali Says:
    September 10th, 2005 at 10:15 pm

    The police and the politicians, the administration and the bureaucrats may be corrupt in India. but the main point is this = Indians care for each other in times of distress. there is absolutely no feeling of dark or fair, black or white, hindu or muslim, sikh or christian. when any natural calamity strikes us, we all help out in any way possible. Indian society may be corrupt, but Indians are the best. I am proud to be an Indian in every sense of the word. more number of people died in America when the hurricane struck just because the effected people were blacks. Less people died here because the effected people were Indian. Not black or white, hindu or muslim or any other religion or race.
    4. Anon Says:
    September 10th, 2005 at 10:43 pm

    Well NO was not an important state to be honest though that sounds crude. If it was a state like New York or California the help would be there at twice the speed. So there is no comparision between New Orleans and Bombay.

    Not to mention New Orleans was bowl shaped , so the floods had more of an impact.
    5. KHAN Says:
    September 11th, 2005 at 1:40 am

    My friend don t be so proud Iam from Pakistan and when the Sonami came in
    the Indian ocean it did not hit Pakistan it could have happened any where,so dont be so proud every thing happenes from GOD, THE CREATER OF EVERY THING
    6. abcdefghi Says:
    September 11th, 2005 at 4:12 am

    eventhough india is third world country, they provided service quickly to their ppl, in usa dere is corruption as well but they are known as legal fees. compare the wages of indian officials and american and look at urself guys we don;t pay tax in india but in usa or canada we pay half of our money in taxes…….so think now who is better…………………..i proud to be an indian even i live in canada……………..
    7. roger Says:
    September 11th, 2005 at 6:34 am

    officials taking bribe for distributing help, many affected people spend the help money on drinks. Many unaffected people got the benefit with the help and definately sharing from local politicians. People in india, help each other in difficulties but the considering above factors, nothing is that we can be proud for.
    8. Jessy Says:
    September 11th, 2005 at 6:44 am

    No matter how corrupt my nation is, how bad it is, we grew up like that and I am proud to be born in India. This is my country and I belong here, and for those people who feel sorry to say they are indian….I feel sorry for you idiots.
    9. sanjay1059 Says:
    September 11th, 2005 at 6:44 am

    I am pround to be Indian this doesnot mean i should not improve the curroupt surroundings. We can learn from everywhere possible. US also has to learn from us. It is not necessary that US is GOD. IT is the attitude of people in India who helped eachother and didnot loot the others at gunpoint. THIS IS INDIA. Even all the females who were strangled in flood watersin Mumbai were not teased but helped.
    10. Sandeep Says:
    September 11th, 2005 at 6:51 am

    I don’t accept that the situation in US can be compared with what happened at Mumbai. New Orleans is below Sea Level, so Flooding is more long lasting and severe. We Indians are good at falsely convincing ourselves to be the best. One of my friends above has gone to the extend to say that Caste and Creed does not make any difference. He must be blind and deaf or pretending to be. How many people in India die everyday on the name of Caste and Religion. Lets see the good things of other Nations and learn to appreciate. Lets accept our weaknesses and work to get rid of them.
    11. Ace Says:
    September 11th, 2005 at 7:24 am

    Its comparing tables with chairs. New Orleans was hit by a hurricane, not MONSOON !!!

    Stop being over-nationalistic
    12. ak Says:
    September 11th, 2005 at 7:55 am

    what i wanna say is we r dead …we r living life coz we fear to kill ourself.we r fooling ourself by talkin bout those things who has nothing to do with the truth.we wanna take over the system we wants to change it but we r devided coz indians r most selfish human on this earth.look inside urself n think how much honest u r to mankind, to the system, to friends to family and atlast to urself even.time to think about communism…..think bout it coz for us democracy means freedom to do “anything”.as for as i am concerned i am geting frustated day by day and thnx but no thnx to u i dont wanna read or listen all bullshit u people discuss coz that is far away from truth.ALL I WANNA SAY PLZ GET UNITED AND THINK, FIGHT FOR UR RIGHTS.
    13. jagat Says:
    September 11th, 2005 at 9:22 am

    the thing which matters is not the corruption but the satisfaction and faith which is full in indian hearts . no matters who bribed whom but lives are saved and the life came to normalcy is’nt it great.
    14. arla Says:
    September 11th, 2005 at 10:13 am

    If God created everything, then why did God create evil? Its not God who makes Tsunamis its the laws of physics. And by the way, unlike humans, Tsunamis are not religion biased!!
    Stop searchin for God, the element is within you.
    15. Jay Says:
    September 11th, 2005 at 10:36 am

    This is not to say that I condone corruption.
    Corruption is there even in the richest countries in the World. In Western countries corruption does not affect common man. Bush has made billions of dollars by dealing with Saudi Arabia. Richest people in the World are in Gulf countries, which are Muslim countries with lot of religious observations and restrictions. All these filthy rich people are corrupt both financially and morally.
    16. Tantrix Says:
    September 11th, 2005 at 11:06 am

    Overall, comparing these two disasters is like comparing apples and oranges. It’s interesting, but serves no purpose and proves nothing.

    Maybe the floods in Mumbai weren’t disasterous enough — but that doesn’t make it better handled than the floods in New Orleans.

    Also, US is the big bully in the world today. Considering that Mr. Bush took over the command of two countries during his first reign as the President, I agree that the response time was slow and the help inadequate for such a powerful and decisive leader.

    And let me just say that US is a country where small things are over-hyped and people need directions for everything. They need to know if the coffee they’re paying $3 for is hot (otherwise they’ll sue).. or they need to know that cigarettes that they pay $5 for are eventually gonna kill them (otherwise they’ll sue)..

    It’s a whole country of kids who consider themselves victims.. victims of hot coffee, big macs, hurricanes, terrorists, iraq, iran, n. korea, and even themselves.

    Even this New Orleans mess is no different… it’s blown way out of proportion.. They need to do only one thing.. take it in the stride and grow up..
    17. The most pathetic living creature Says:
    September 11th, 2005 at 3:08 pm

    All Crap and this is mega crap.. Doesn’t matter.. Every one is corrupt in the world.. some are very greedy and some while collared. The main thing inspite of the “DEVELOPED” tag, we see here the undevelopmed mentality of the citizens (looting, rape and very bad administration)
    18. SUSHANT. Says:
    September 11th, 2005 at 3:21 pm

    Hello All,

    Yes, I do agree with the editor about the corruption thats rampant in India. Thats why India after all these years is still a third world country.

    To the fact that India has provided top brains to all major projects across the World, that has made the other countries richer & advance. Yet, India is still a third world nation.

    If we remove all these corrupt politicians then I am sure that India will be the most advanced nation in the World.

    But, as the proverb goes, ” Who will bell the cat?”.

    President Bush has made USA a living hell for people, he sure has made his millions if not billions in these past four yrs of his presidency. The army took 4 days to respond to handle the post hurricane situations. But, Bush has thousands of troops in Iraq.. why?

    There are many questions that will be unanswered.

    Thanks,
    Sushant.
    19. gautam Says:
    September 11th, 2005 at 6:52 pm

    THINK LIKE A MAN OF ACTION…..AND ACT LIKE A MAN OF THOUGHT.

    IF ALL OF US JUST DO OUR DUTIES HONESTLY EVERYTHING WILL FALL INTO PLACE ON ITS OWN.

    I HAVE UNDERSTOOD THIS FACT AND I AM FOLLOWING THE RIGHT PATH, HOPE THIS MESSAGE WILL BRING A POSITIVE CHANGE IN ATLEAST ONE OF THE READERS.
    20. simran Says:
    September 11th, 2005 at 7:38 pm

    just want to say problems are not with nations, it is with people all over the world.

    it is human beings that are corupt,crueletc,etc.

    agar bharat me gandiji ko goli mara jata hai to videsh me bhi christ ko suli par chadhaya jata hai
    21. Bad Man Says:
    September 11th, 2005 at 8:49 pm

    INDIA IS GREAT - MERA BHARAT MAHAN - EAST OR WEST INDIA IS THE BEST - INDIA IS TILL ETERNITY - SARE JAHAN SE AACHA HINDUSTAN HAMARA - INDIA IS FOREVER - WHOLE WORLD RESIDES IN INDIA - KASHMIR SE KANYAKUMARI TAK BHARAT EK HAI AUR REHEGA - AMEEN
    22. ROHIT Says:
    September 11th, 2005 at 8:53 pm

    guys even though we go about cryin on the fact INDIA is not as advanced or the politicians are corrupt…or even sum idiots went about sayin here..they are not proud to be indians….tel me something how many of you all have helped the nation to be proud of you……all u guys simply study n help other nations..if you are not proud to be an indian….give back al the love,warmth,care,joy to ur motherland n leav…its because of you people that others make fun of our country n their citizens….if your ashamed to be an INDIAN.wel u should be ashamed of your culture,your past……..moreover your parents who are also INDIANS….HOW ABOUT CURSING THEM TO MAK U BORN INDIAN..?
    23. arya_712 Says:
    September 12th, 2005 at 11:13 am

    well can anyone say how many of us really feel patriotism when we utter the word patriot?How many of us Indians understand what patriotism is?Patriotism is not only standing in support of your nation when it is compared againt any other country,but treating and serving the country itself.Let no one say he is a patriot untill he has served his country and its people selflessly.
    For any correspondence mail to me at arya_712@yahoo.ie
    24. mpln4u Says:
    September 13th, 2005 at 4:41 am

    i truly agree with what editor has said. here the money collected by red cross and charities, will 100% surely will goto the affected people not in the pockets of the middle people.
    I agree that india has more more more potential than any other country in the world, if we can eliminate the bribes and corruption, India can soon become more than US or England.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:54 PM  

  • Very long comments, I totally forgot where the main topic went. But good reading nevertheless.

    The email shown in this post only confirms the known. Indians take pride without understanding issues at stake. New Orleans was a PR and Disaster management screw-up of the highest order. Bombay really was no different. Just that Indians are so used to things happening haphazardly and politicians playing blame game and sitting in the confines of their safe homes, such things are never apparent.
    Did someone forget to mention the death count in Mumbai and New Orleans. Given the scale of disaster and issues in New Orleans, the number of deaths is less than a 1000. In Mumbai, where the email highlights how fast the response was and all, the death was around 2000 (documented). And this really is the crux of the matter. Value of life is really not a key factor in India. Given the blurgeoning population, what is 2000 people die is really the attitude.
    Trying to figure out where the weather doctors went wrong and why parts of Mumbai were totally unaffected (the affluent portion obviously) while another was destroyed is important. Comparing Mumbai to New Orleans and getting a sense of false pride will ensure we stay in the veil of ignorance that has come to symbolise us.

    By Blogger The Last Blogger, at 8:53 AM  

  • more importantly we need to do it at selecting best ppl for parliament but that doesnt happens much

    By Blogger Soumya, at 3:38 AM  

  • Agreed with you on this one. I was there and I saw first hand what the NGOs did and how resilient and strong the people of Mumbai are. Hope you are doing good. I am back from my travelling and hope to back to blogging soon.:) Take care and thanks for the wonderful comments.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:02 PM  

  • Hari, u lost again kya?

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    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:29 PM  

  • Hmmm... Pride - not a good thing. Dignity - yes.

    Pride - comparing Katrina and rain in Mumbai.

    Dignity - sympathising and empathising with the victims of Katrina while trying our best to manage flood waters in Mumbai and keep the health and sanitations prim and proper.

    Pride - To let humanitarians handle the crisis while the leader concentrates on being number one.

    Dignity - knowing we are all the same yet different and unique. Knowing its pointless to prove a point. Knowing that number one and perfection are but political tools.

    Pride - creating a problem and then solving it when no one can.

    Dignity - understanding the problem.

    We Indians - are we proud or are we a dignified race? I see dignity in the fact that majority of us Indians do not look down upon others with respect to Caste, Creed, Colour or Religion.

    I see pointless pride in comparing Katrina and Mumbai.

    Lets do waht we can to soothe and not fan the embers of petty pointless matters.

    As a business teacher, I tell my students - Your Strength and your weakness should never be on your CV. If others know your strength they know where to work on to make you weak - if they know your weakness they know where to hit you so that it hurts more.

    Haven't we learnt our history lessons well? Divide and rule. Very effective. What we have here is a division caused by Too Proud people and level headed ones who do not somehow seem to know how to make their proud fellow country men stop BOASTING. Honestly, lets pipe down and not be foolish and beat our own drums. If we are called third world country - Fine - as long as we know we can not just survive a Tsunami but LIVE to battle another if we must - if we know we as Indians can climb every mountain sail every sea ... That's enough. We dont need to get the approval of the world. Lets stand up with dignity and be able to not only empathize with our Mumbaiites but also with the New Orleans too ...

    God Bless.

    By Blogger Loveena Raj, at 8:21 AM  

  • Hi Hari, I am back here. Please send me an email so that we can be in touch that way too. Thanks :-)

    By Blogger Krish, at 8:36 PM  

  • Hari, enna appuram vere post kaanom? Hope you are doing fine :-)

    By Blogger Krish, at 7:42 AM  

  • dont compare new orleans and bombay..
    it doesnt fit..
    if you compared bombay and new york or bombay and washington dc.. then it wud be the same.

    if this had happened in a smaller town i dont think the indian govt wud have responded the same way..

    check this out..
    http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/10/10/D8D4UI400.html

    its all abt the money .. we are capitalists..

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:45 AM  

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